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badasschris · May 18, 2009, 01:56 PM // 13:56

Hi every one I was wondering if you could help me make a warrior build so I can use my favorite weapons.

I havne't played in a while and see that tactics is rerely used now, I have a tactics tormented sheild. I got a gmG+15 in stance req 12 jade sword a long time ago and have never found a build to use it so basically I want a good sword build that has:

at least 12 in sword and 9 in tactics, and if it could be comparirable in usefulness to this build http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:W/any_PvE_WE_Axe
because thats what im using now and it works very nicely.

I don't mind doing less damage if i can increase my tanking ability or help buff the team. Although it if fun to be able to do some damage.

many many thanks I hope someone can help me. Also I don't mind what elites you use cos if i don't have it, its always fun going to get it.

Picuso · May 18, 2009, 02:49 PM // 14:49

Godmode, lowering strength to 9+1 to increase tactics to 9+1.

legacyofkain85 · May 18, 2009, 02:49 PM // 14:49

there is really no reason to use tactics anymore tbh,also i believe it will be quite hard to sell your tormented tactics shieldor exchange for a strength one.U can go 9+1 str,12+1+1 sword and the rest in tactics and take healing signet for a self heal,but then the [warrior's endurance]build wont be so good since the more strength the better because it affects the skills in the bar.

Killamus · May 18, 2009, 02:50 PM // 14:50

Why not just use this:
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:W/an..._Slash_Warrior

Just knock a few points out of str for your shield.

Maneo Ranae · May 18, 2009, 03:09 PM // 15:09

[pre][build prof=W/? Sword=12+1+1 str=9+1 tact=9+1 box][Flail][Warrior's Endurance][whirlwind attack][Power Attack][thrill of victory][to the limit!][Asuran scan]["Save Yourselves!"(Luxon)][/build][/pre]

... Oh yeah, right, BBCode was out (At least on my PC it is). Ahh well, hope you can fish it out there.

badasschris · May 18, 2009, 03:16 PM // 15:16

Hi guys thanks for the replys, I think i will take your suggestions and give them a go, I know I wont be as useful as I was but then again i paid a lot for that sheild and it looks cool. I have always made hero/hench teams like profercies teams 2 monks 4 casters 2 tanks but then I have been looking at the special hench builds like discordway and rojway and think i might try them out, from what i can see it wont matter too much what build i have as the heros should do the killing for me.

I was thinkng of the the ROJ-way build because i dont have all the necro heros is there anything i should change to my warrior build in this team?

many thanks again.

Btw i really like the jade sword skin what are your thoughts? what is your favorite sword skin? (or axe)

Picuso · May 18, 2009, 03:17 PM // 15:17

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Originally Posted by badasschris

I was thinkng of the the ROJ-way build because i dont have all the necro heros is there anything i should change to my warrior build in this team?

Just take a Hammer and use Earthshaker :P

badasschris · May 18, 2009, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by Picuso

Just take a Hammer and use Earthshaker :P

I suppose I could but I don't have a nice hammer, the best is probably one of them magma stone ones, I really wanted to use my nice sword instead. is there a very cool looking hammer I haven't seen?

Maneo Ranae · May 18, 2009, 03:26 PM // 15:26

Deldrimor Maul. Bigass clogger.

^^.

Picuso · May 18, 2009, 03:27 PM // 15:27

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Originally Posted by badasschris

I suppose I could but I don't have a nice hammer, the best is probably one of them magma stone ones, I really wanted to use my nice sword instead. is there a very cool looking hammer I haven't seen?

You don't need to use a hammer. My post was a joke

RoJ will nuke everything on your way, so any build will work with it

EDIT: I enjoy KD'ing foes while RoJ rains over them

badasschris · May 18, 2009, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by Picuso

You don't need to use a hammer. My post was a joke

RoJ will nuke everything on your way, so any build will work with it

EDIT: I enjoy KD'ing foes while RoJ rains over them

Lol thats good, then i can stand around admiring my nice weapons while the heros do the rest. Its about time i made a team that could survive I have found EOTN too hard so far.

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Originally Posted by Maneo Ranae

Deldrimor Maul. Bigass clogger.

^^.

That hammer does look good BUT... More importantly lol when on earth was there a prophercies end game item added??? i have compleated prof with at least 5 chars and never new about it(that was in the first year though) can i still claim them?

Neo Atomisk · May 18, 2009, 04:17 PM // 16:17

yes, do hells precipice again and you'll be taken to Droknar's Forge (explorable area)
imo, try to get a str shield, effeciency > looks, but tormented shields do look cool.

badasschris · May 18, 2009, 04:51 PM // 16:51

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Originally Posted by Neo Atomisk

yes, do hells precipice again and you'll be taken to Droknar's Forge (explorable area)
imo, try to get a str shield, effeciency > looks, but tormented shields do look cool.

I've got victos bulwark which works but it looks so rubbish compared with my tormented sheild. when i got my tormented it was when they first came out i paid about 100k + 10 e which works out at about 170k at the time. what do they cost now? i could buy another one, what sort of price could i get for mine?

Lux Aeterna · May 18, 2009, 06:17 PM // 18:17

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Originally Posted by badasschris

I know I wont be as useful as I was but then again i paid a lot for that sheild and it looks cool.

Using "watch yourself" with a decently high tactics score is a big party saver, when I do pve I try to make sure most/all of the wars in the party have it so we can chain permanent +20 armor. Not as strong as save yourselves, but easier to keep up permanently.

You can easily get by with a lower strength score especially in pve.

That said, I'm sure it would take all of ten minutes to sell your torm tactics shield to a Mo/W for 45e or whatever you paid for it. I don't know the price but I see monks using them a lot.

Beomagi · May 18, 2009, 06:25 PM // 18:25

Steady stance adrenaline building doesn't do a lot of damage - not by comparison to what's out there anymore - but it does do a fair amount, makes a ton of adrenaline, and regains energy.

tactics at 14, you'll get 4 adrenaline, and 8 energy using a drunken blow from a zealous weapon. Plus, the damage from drunken/desperation at +38 isn't anything to laugh at especially when you're causing bleeding, deepwound or cripple along with it.
Use this to build adrenaline fast for skills like watch yourself, save yourselves, even flail for ias (since steady stance used with drunken/desperation is only there for that hit).

Tactics isn't what it once was - sure, but it's got it's uses.

Reverend Dr · May 18, 2009, 09:38 PM // 21:38

The 8 armor loss from running your shield unspecced won't hurt your performance as much as putting 9 into tactics.

If you really think you are going to miss the 8 armor that much, then you need to have a large set of shields each with the appropriate +10 armors and swap them as appropriate.

Lux Aeterna · May 19, 2009, 12:02 AM // 00:02

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Originally Posted by Beomagi

Steady stance adrenaline building doesn't do a lot of damage - not by comparison to what's out there anymore - but it does do a fair amount, makes a ton of adrenaline, and regains energy.

tactics at 14, you'll get 4 adrenaline, and 8 energy using a drunken blow from a zealous weapon. Plus, the damage from drunken/desperation at +38 isn't anything to laugh at especially when you're causing bleeding, deepwound or cripple along with it.
Use this to build adrenaline fast for skills like watch yourself, save yourselves, even flail for ias (since steady stance used with drunken/desperation is only there for that hit).

Tactics isn't what it once was - sure, but it's got it's uses.

Anti KD stances combined with drunken/desperation blow is kinda kewl but hard to combine with an IAS.

Beomagi · May 19, 2009, 02:10 AM // 02:10

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Originally Posted by Lux Aeterna

Anti KD stances combined with drunken/desperation blow is kinda kewl but hard to combine with an IAS.

Which is another reason it's so outclassed by strength now.

however it's not too hard to use - just requires rather more intensive management.
assuming you're flailing. hit steady + drunken/desperation. This hit will be slow, sure. But you've recharged charged flail in that one hit. sacrificed 0.4 seconds for a random condition, high damage blow, +4 adrenaline, and at a cost of 2 or 3 energy.

Back when endurance was a stance, I picked this over a lot of other elites. and now with the buff to strength of honor, well, yikes.

It's not optimal, but the adr engine can help a ton keeping sy going in pve, or any other adr skill.

_Nihilist_ · May 19, 2009, 02:55 AM // 02:55

Sell/Trade your Tactics Tormented Shield and get a Strength one if you want the same skin with all the efficiency.

If nothing else, and you have to run Tactics, run:

12+1+1 Weapon
10+1 Strength
8+1 Tactics

**Marty Silverblade** · May 19, 2009, 09:12 AM // 09:12

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Originally Posted by badasschris

I don't mind doing less damage if i can increase my tanking ability or help buff the team.

Don't ever compromise your damage for either of those, especially tanking. Never tank.

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Originally Posted by badasschris

Although it is fun to be able to do some damage.

Yes. I strongly encourage you to have as much fun as you can humanly can, and when you have, you'll be a good War.